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Ballistics - Fix and improve B_12Gauge_Slug_NoCartridge, add Slug 300gr.#11352

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@Laid3acK Laid3acK commented Apr 10, 2026

When merged this pull request will:

3.21 DB 3.21 AB PR DB PR AB
CZ 581 450 459 485, 606 485, 606
CZ 581 Short 450 425 436, 545 436, 545
AA12 (WS) 450 434 426, 533 426, 533
MSBS Grot SG 450 414 419, 524 419, 524
XMS SG (WS) 450 450 419, 524 419, 524

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  • Short range ammunition, zeroing 100m or less recommended.
  • Slug works as it should be with shotguns after some tests with dispersion = 0;, except Western Sahara XMS SG. Maybe 3D model issue ?
  • Same that .50BW, no range card and no scope turrets for Six-12 Slug,
    same that .50BW, "Slug 300gr" added in AtragMx GunList in case ACE3 players would use Six-12 with scope (switch to primary weapon for scope turrets and open AtragMx range card (RC) for values).
    Reseting AtragMx GunList to add eventually the new ammunition for Six-12.

Additional informations:

  • Slug ACE_muzzleVelocities - ACE_barrelLengths curve:
ace_muzzlevelocities
  • Slug 438gr terminal velocities, airFriction -0.006:
438gr
  • Slug 300gr terminal velocities, airFriction -0.00212:
300gr

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Some tests in-game with a dispersion = 0;, "Point of Impact" results top right of the screen:

@PabstMirror PabstMirror requested a review from johnb432 May 6, 2026 19:46
@PabstMirror PabstMirror added this to the 3.21.1 milestone May 9, 2026
@PabstMirror PabstMirror added the kind/bug-fix Release Notes: **FIXED:** label May 9, 2026
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This PR should be split up, as it contains numerous changes not related to the title and that are very different.

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The title means what it means, vanilla slug fixed, i just added a new one.
It was not a problem to add new pellets in the past (default ballistic WS pellet MV also fixed with this PR).
Title updated.

@Laid3acK Laid3acK changed the title Ballistics - Fix and improve B_12Gauge_Slug_NoCartridge. Ballistics - Fix and improve vanilla B_12Gauge_Slug_NoCartridge and add new 300gr slug. May 11, 2026
@Laid3acK Laid3acK changed the title Ballistics - Fix and improve vanilla B_12Gauge_Slug_NoCartridge and add new 300gr slug. Ballistics - Fix and improve B_12Gauge_Slug_NoCartridge, add Slug 300gr. May 15, 2026
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Remove #11280, has no effect on slug trajectory in-game and remove the possibility to play with Type 115 secondary weapon (50BW) with scope.
Update Western Sahara XMS SG shotgun realistic name SIX-12 (thanks to rekterakathom for his source).

These are out of scope for this PR.

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  • The vanilla and WS underbarrel shotguns are the same, i just added realistic name for WS. For 12 lines, i will not make a new PR.
  • Your PR solves nothing, so useless. Would be useful to check your own PR properly in-game before merging it.

I have no doubt about your programming knowledge (i'm completely incompetent for that) and i have absolutely anything against you, but about ballistics you have probably some things to learn.

How to remove johnb432 as reviewer of this PR ?

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Please tone down your language, there is no reason to get personal. Review comments aren't attacks on you and you shouldn't treat them as such.

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Drofseh commented May 28, 2026

This PR should be split up

I agree

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Laid3acK commented May 29, 2026

  • It's not a question of language, attacks, ego or i don't know what. My priority is AB, i'm focused on it since the 2014 stand alone, before ACE3.
    I don't want AB becomes an Arcadish Ballistics with, for example, a "NoScopes" fix or a "Hardcoded 50m zeroing" simulation. Again, that solves or improves nothing, the proof with this PR. The correct small caliber projectiles trajectory in-game with the both ballistics is the most important for me.
  • Ammo and magazines have an effect on vanilla game and WS, the second slug depends on the first.
    As you can see, it's not a basic PR and it's better to be seen in globality.

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AA12 from Western Sahara CDLC shoots far below its crosshair when using any attached sights

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