Game freeze when click family tree

[beppenzano]

Hi, I wanted to report a bug I've been experiencing with TinyUIFix.

Whenever I open the family tree in-game, the game freezes completely — the UI becomes unresponsive, time stops, and only ambient animations like water and rain continue. The game does not crash, it just hangs indefinitely on the family tree screen.

After testing, I confirmed that the issue is caused exclusively by TinyUIFix. When I remove it from my Mods folder, the family tree opens instantly with no issues. When I add it back, the freeze returns.

I am not using any other mods that modify the UI. I downloaded the latest version from ModTheSims (updated March 14, 2026).

I also found a report of the same issue from another user dating back to 2023, so this appears to be a longstanding bug.

My setup: The Sims 3 with multiple expansion packs, NRaas mods (MasterController, Overwatch, ErrorTrap, StoryProgression), running on Windows with a 32" monitor at native resolution.

Hope this helps track down the issue. Thanks for your work on this mod!

[just-harry]

Hiya, may I ask which version of MasterController you're using, and (if you know) when it was downloaded?

Additionally, what has the Tiny UI Fix's UI scale been set to?

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You're correct about this being a long-standing bug, but it was fixed by version 1.0.2.
It may have resurfaced for newer MasterController versions owing to newer versions of the C# compiler generating different code.

[beppenzano]

I downloaded version V135 on June 8th. I read that it had been fixed as a bug! I set it to 1.5. Looking forward to hearing from you, thanks!

[just-harry]

Just to be sure, have you re-run the Tiny UI Fix's script after installing MasterController? And if so, was the "Compatibility Patches for NRaas Mods" patchset enabled when doing so?

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If your answer to both of those questions was yes:
I've tried out MC v135 on my machine, with a UI scale of 1.5, and I've been unable to replicate the freezing.

Does the freeze occur with all family trees, for you, or only some family trees?
If only some, is it triggered by a particular depth or width?

[beppenzano]

Yes, I always installed MC first. Now I tried uninstalling the UI and reinstalled it via the bat file, setting it to 1.7 (to see if anything would change), with the NRAAS mods checkbox ticked (done with the previous one too). I launched the game, opened the family tree and it froze all the same. I tried another family, same result. So I opened a different neighbourhood, a different family, and boom: it opens! I honestly don't know, the save is probably corrupted... This means my Sims will have to move, hopefully that will help with the family tree showing up! Anyway, thanks for the support! What do you think it could be?

[just-harry]

The game's family tree dialog has some twisted logic wherein it decides to stop laying out the branches/nodes based on their graphical X and Y coordinates.
As the Tiny UI Fix's scaling affects those coordinates, if it fails to scale even one of them then the dialog ends up getting stuck in a loop of laying out the same branches/nodes again and again.

When the game appears to freeze it's really the family tree dialog chasing its own tail for eternity.

So your save file is likely fine and uncorrupted.

If you'd feel comfortable with sharing your save, feel free to link to it here, or to email it to me at contact@harrygillanders.com, and I'll take a look at the family tree affected by the freezing :)

[beppenzano]

Sounds fun! Sure, I'll sent via email! Thanks again ;)

[just-harry]

Thank you for sharing your save file. I loaded it on my machine and unfortunately I'm still unable to replicate the freezing.

Perhaps changing the save file caused the scriptCache.package file to refresh, resulting in the family tree dialog working? I don't know, really.

If you find that the freezing resumes in a different save, please let me know.

As for your current save, removing the NRaas_MasterControllerIntegration.package file, and re-running the Tiny UI Fix's script should result in the game's vanila family tree dialog being used, which shouldn't freeze.

[beppenzano]

Ok, I tried it and I removed NRaas_MasterControllerIntegration.package and NRaas_MCIntegration.package, and now it opens! Are those two the problem?

[just-harry]

I've never heard of NRaas_MCIntegration.package before... where did it come from?

Try removing NRaas_MCIntegration.package while still keeping NRaas_MasterControllerIntegration.package, and then re-run the Tiny UI Fix's script: that might retain MasterController integration without causing the family tree dialog to freeze

[beppenzano]

Unfortunately it only freezes with NRaas_MasterControllerIntegration.package... If I remove both, it works!

[just-harry]

This is very strange. I wish I could be of more help.

Could I ask you to reinstall the NRaas_MasterControllerIntegration.package file, and then re-run the Tiny UI Fix's script, and then send the generated tiny-ui-fix.packge file (in the "Mods\TinyUIFix" folder) to me via an email, please?

I may be able to find the root cause of the issue, given the generated package file.

[beppenzano]

Here it comes!

tiny-ui-fix.zip